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	<title>Comments on: No Fightpicking. Just a Question.</title>
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	<description>what OK feels like now.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Brodeur</title>
		<link>http://mikescalise.net/blog/?p=832#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Brodeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:
I'd ask the same question with just about the same degree of (mostly sincere) curiosity. It seems like Moore could've re-written his "essay" to be even more brief, if brevity is the point. "Tendency toward glibness" would seem even more glib of a statement, implying that the narrator is so glib that he has stopped bothering with (believing in) complete sentences. 

I guess the main trouble I'm having with Moore's essay is that I don't make an immediate connection between glibness and brevity. It's the same problem I have with belabored similes, i.e. similes that don't create an immediate physical comparison between two things. I mean, what's the point? 

That's all I got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:<br />
I&#8217;d ask the same question with just about the same degree of (mostly sincere) curiosity. It seems like Moore could&#8217;ve re-written his &#8220;essay&#8221; to be even more brief, if brevity is the point. &#8220;Tendency toward glibness&#8221; would seem even more glib of a statement, implying that the narrator is so glib that he has stopped bothering with (believing in) complete sentences. </p>
<p>I guess the main trouble I&#8217;m having with Moore&#8217;s essay is that I don&#8217;t make an immediate connection between glibness and brevity. It&#8217;s the same problem I have with belabored similes, i.e. similes that don&#8217;t create an immediate physical comparison between two things. I mean, what&#8217;s the point? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I got.</p>
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		<title>By: JosephScapellato</title>
		<link>http://mikescalise.net/blog/?p=832#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>JosephScapellato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I 100% agree that this piece is steered (and sustained) by irony.  It's ironically making an argument that at the heart of this essay (and all essays) is "glibness".
That said, I don't think I agree with this argument. Which may be part of the point of it, that readers are likely to disagree?  (What you were saying about the essay's role in conversation, maybe?)
Furthermore-- and this echoes what I think you're saying-- this piece TELLS "glibness" but SHOWS "irony."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I 100% agree that this piece is steered (and sustained) by irony.  It&#8217;s ironically making an argument that at the heart of this essay (and all essays) is &#8220;glibness&#8221;.<br />
That said, I don&#8217;t think I agree with this argument. Which may be part of the point of it, that readers are likely to disagree?  (What you were saying about the essay&#8217;s role in conversation, maybe?)<br />
Furthermore&#8211; and this echoes what I think you&#8217;re saying&#8211; this piece TELLS &#8220;glibness&#8221; but SHOWS &#8220;irony.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: I thought about the thing as a mechanism for proving its own argument re: glibness, but Is *glibness* what the "essay" is really conveying, or is it steered mostly by *irony*?

Glib: http://bit.ly/U0MNo
Irony: http://bit.ly/RVYN2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: I thought about the thing as a mechanism for proving its own argument re: glibness, but Is *glibness* what the &#8220;essay&#8221; is really conveying, or is it steered mostly by *irony*?</p>
<p>Glib: <a href="http://bit.ly/U0MNo" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/bit.ly');" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/U0MNo</a><br />
Irony: <a href="http://bit.ly/RVYN2" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/bit.ly');" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/RVYN2</a></p>
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		<title>By: JosephScapellato</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosephScapellato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My immediate, gut-level reaction-- which I fear may not be clear, sober, and intelligent-- is that this piece operates first and foremost as a *definition* of the essay.  An essay, Moore seems to be arguing, is a written manifestation of the having-of-a-tendency-toward-glibness.
So although this "essay" may not take the traditional form of an essay (mostly because of length?), it perhaps embodies the essence of the essay-- or, at the very least, argues for what the essence of the essay might be.  (You will only write an essay if you want to make a "try."  And this piece says: It often takes a lot of talking to make a "try.”)
And of course, Moore gamely presents this glibness in a single sentence.  Too-cute, or clever?  Both?
To me, Moore’s piece is definition first.  Essay second?
I mean no disrespect to Moore when I say it’s difficult for me to call this an essay if I accept that length is a factor in defining forms.  I hope this doesn’t make me stodgy.  Sure, in some cases length is irrelevant to identity (prose poem, or micro-fiction?), but, broadly speaking, length helps determine if a reader mentally frames a piece as a novel, novella, or short story-- right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My immediate, gut-level reaction&#8211; which I fear may not be clear, sober, and intelligent&#8211; is that this piece operates first and foremost as a *definition* of the essay.  An essay, Moore seems to be arguing, is a written manifestation of the having-of-a-tendency-toward-glibness.<br />
So although this &#8220;essay&#8221; may not take the traditional form of an essay (mostly because of length?), it perhaps embodies the essence of the essay&#8211; or, at the very least, argues for what the essence of the essay might be.  (You will only write an essay if you want to make a &#8220;try.&#8221;  And this piece says: It often takes a lot of talking to make a &#8220;try.”)<br />
And of course, Moore gamely presents this glibness in a single sentence.  Too-cute, or clever?  Both?<br />
To me, Moore’s piece is definition first.  Essay second?<br />
I mean no disrespect to Moore when I say it’s difficult for me to call this an essay if I accept that length is a factor in defining forms.  I hope this doesn’t make me stodgy.  Sure, in some cases length is irrelevant to identity (prose poem, or micro-fiction?), but, broadly speaking, length helps determine if a reader mentally frames a piece as a novel, novella, or short story&#8211; right?</p>
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		<dc:creator>HTMLGIANT / What is an &#8216;essay&#8217;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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